Gatto di Sangue: This is our last Marvel’s Women round table and it’s on the women in the Thor movies: Jane Foster, Darcy Lewis, Frigga and Sif.
Gatto di Sangue: My favorite female character in the two Thor movies was by far Darcy. She wouldn’t typically strike you as the strongest female character in those movies but she was. You don’t have exactly cream of the crop to choose from.
Feral atom: What about Sif?
Gatto di Sangue: She was okay, but you didn’t really see much of her, especially her personality. Quite honestly, you don’t see much of Darcy, either.
Feral Atom: Unfortunately.
Gatto di Sangue: Yeah. I really liked Darcy’s character; she had a spunky, realistic personality.
Road-sine: The good thing about Jane Foster is that you see a lot of her and she’s a scientist.
Gatto di Sangue: At least she’s supposed to be smart.
Road-sine: The problem is that it’s so obvious that her main role is love interest. Even when she had the Ether.
Gatto di Sangue: She has no control over it, it will eventually kill her–the movie gave her so much power, but somehow cast her as the woman in peril anyway.
Road-sine: There is so much focus on her, but she’s still the damsel in distress. She doesn’t really do anything despite the amount of screen time she gets.
Feral Atom: True.
Gatto di Sangue: I feel about her the same way I feel about Lex Luthor. Both of them aren’t very articulate or verbose or very mechanically inclined or scientific in the way they talk or react to situations. I know that Natalie Potman is supposed to be smart in real life, which is part of the reason why it’s so strange, but I just don’t believe her as a smart character. They establish in the beginning that she was smart by having her mutter some scientific drivel occasionally, but she more often than not strikes me as dumb.
Gatto di Sangue: And, even though she’s supposed to be smart, she immediately falls in love with a guy she thinks is crazy. A guy who’s rambling about how he fell out of the sky and is actually the Norse god Thor.
Feral Atom: So any closing thoughts?
Road-sine: Well, I think that a lot of the female characters in the Marvel shows and movies are strong. They actually do contribute to the plot. I mean, at least moderately strong and you don’t think of them as weak characters. You don’t think of them as a poorly developed character. A lot of the times you don’t think of them as just or prominently a love interest.
Gatto di Sangue: It could easily turn into that. Black Widow and Bruce Banner, Darcy and Ian, Matt Murdock and Claire Temple. Marvel is trying to incorporate even more romance, which is something I would honestly rather see less of. It doesn’t really make sense to me.
Feral Atom: There wasn’t a ton of romance with Ant Man or Guardians of the Galaxy. And those scenes were extremely brief. And there was no romance in Captain America: the Winter Soldier.
Gatto di Sangue: Which was nice, and is one of the reasons why that is my favorite Marvel Cinema movie. It kind of proves that you don’t need romance to make a good, complete movie.
Road-sine: And in Marvel’s Peggy Carter, Peggy didn’t have a love interest.
Gatto di Sangue: Making it more enjoyable–they didn’t turn it into a soap opera. It would have been ridiculous for someone in her position to date.
Feral Atom: I’m looking forward to Doctor Strange, which is going to have Clea and the Ancient One, who will be played by a woman.